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Post by mike on Jan 5, 2015 9:37:49 GMT -5
Some suggestions for those still or repeatedly levelling:
1) Work your garrison. If you are a casual player, this will be the easiest way to keep up/ catch up with those who have already reached lvl 100. Suggestions along these lines: A) Log in at least once a day to gather your free 144GR/day garrison resources B) Work your lumber mill or Trading post. While levelling, lumbermill is viable, but you will eventually not want to be gathering wood. If you have a trading post mining and herbing from your garrison become more important. C) With the exception of Tailoring, Enchanting and Leatherworking, you will get all that you need for your profession(s) by mining your garrison mine and Herbing your garrison garden. If you still run short or if you'd rather spend time levelling, I can send you some ore.
Those who raced to lvl 100 found themselves very short on garrison resources. If you get your free resources and Trading Post/Lumber Mill resources everyday, you will be better off.
1) Work your followers. A) Try to bring them up evenly if possible, but don't as I said earlier keep them to your level. This is because... B) Try to have several (at least 3) of your followers reach level 100 at roughly the same time. This way you will be able to actually run the level 100 missions that come up. C) Like-wise try to save up enough follower gear upgrades that you can gear upgrade all/most of your epic quality followers and still have some spare gear upgrades. You get gear upgrades from GR powered work orders at your dwarven bunker (which you should get at 100 or around the time you get to Nagrand whichever comes first. Also from the salvage yard, which you should get as soon as you can. D) Once your followers are doing level 100 missions (and gear 615 and gear 630) missions, you can get endgame gear upgrades from that. For example, Ixpix has 5 ilvl 615 items waiting for him when he hits 100.
This may sound like a lot, but if you get into a routine, it takes maybe 15min per toon per day. About a third of that is mining, which will eventually become optional as you get quite a bit of ore.
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Post by Bob on Jan 7, 2015 14:18:16 GMT -5
Some suggestions for those still or repeatedly levelling: 1) Work your garrison. If you are a casual player, this will be the easiest way to keep up/ catch up with those who have already reached lvl 100. Suggestions along these lines: A) Log in at least once a day to gather your free 144GR/day garrison resources As I understand it, the Garrison Cache holds up to 500 Garrison Resources, so you don't need to log in every day to gather them up. I haven't been on this week due to work and don't suspect I'll be on tonight. I should hit the cap tomorrow afternoon or thereabouts.
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Post by Bob on Jan 7, 2015 22:54:15 GMT -5
Some suggestions for those still or repeatedly levelling: 1) Work your garrison. If you are a casual player, this will be the easiest way to keep up/ catch up with those who have already reached lvl 100. Suggestions along these lines: A) Log in at least once a day to gather your free 144GR/day garrison resources As I understand it, the Garrison Cache holds up to 500 Garrison Resources, so you don't need to log in every day to gather them up. Confirmed. Logged in at the end of this evening for a couple minutes, had caches and caches full of 500 Resources. So I got that going for me.
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Post by mike on Jan 20, 2015 9:30:57 GMT -5
Indeed! Eventually, you will have plenty of garrison resources and you will be inventing ways to dispose of them. But hitting 100 and having a lot of plots open up will deplete a lot of what you have saved. Some things to keep in mind:
1) You do not need tier 3 buildings in many cases. Profession buildings are almost as good at level 2 as 3. In *those* cases it generally allows you simply to put in 3 days worth of work orders instead of 2. If you already log in at least once every other day, this is basically worthless. If you do not have more than 20 followers, level 3 barracks is useless. You can upgrade to level 3 when you are nearing the 10,000 GR cap again in these cases.
2) May not be useful for non-alt-o-holics. But it appears that buying and learning the Tier 3 architects plans also gives you access to the Tier 2 plans. So if you have already opened up the Tier 3 plans such as with an achievement on an alt, just buy those. They may have already fixed this.
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Post by mike on Jan 20, 2015 9:48:20 GMT -5
It seemed to me that the only real "gearing up" hurdle was getting to ilvl 615 after questing. But this is still pretty easily overcome:
1) We can make crafted gear for you. For the most part, this does the trick. But it's a bit of a trap. You are only permitted to use 3 crafted items at at time. Unfortunately chooseing weapon as one of these looks like a bad idea (but isn't). Weapon ilvl starts at 630 (which counts twice for 2 handers) where everything else starts at 640. Also, you can get a 610 (with Dwarven Bunker, potentially upgraded to 630), weapon from the lvl 100 proving grounds quest rather easily. So you don't get much of an ilvl boost straight out. But in terms of DPS and HPS, the weapon will give you your best boost in the near and long term. Also, it will be the crafted item you will most want to upgrade to 650 then 660 with savage bloods. So while crafted gear is the easiest and quickest way to gear up, if one of them is not your weapon, it may seem wastful.
2) Garrison missions. If you've been keeping up with your garrison, your followers are likely already level 100 and picking up a bunch of ilvl 615 gear. Unfortunately, this only helps a little. What you need is level 100 followers with ilvl 615 or better gear. And unfortunately, you don't even get access to a salvage yard until 96 or higher. And, like me, you may not have thought to replace your barracks with a Dwarven bunker cause you were so close to level 100, the tier 3 garrison and extra plots. But, it's a mainstay to getting your followers ilvl up. Problem is that:
a) Before Tier 3 garrison (level 100), you have to replace the barracks with it. This can slow the progression of your follows to level 100 (and from there to epic quality). So wait until the majority of your follower are level 100 and many are of epic quality.
b) It's work orders cost 20GR, so 120 per day. You get 144 GR free per day. So if you still need garrison resources for other things, you will *need* to run your trading post or/and lumber mill. And even then garrison resource growth will be slow because you will be using a lot of them to run missions.
c) All that said, if you can swing it, it's definitely worth it.
3) Also, with a dwarven bunker, the chance of spontaneous upgrades you get when you receive quest rewards is increased. So even if you don't have enough level 100 followers and garrison resources to use the work orders, get it before (or very soon after) you hit Nagrand. You can get the Barracks again once you hit 100 if you like. But if you're going to be questing in Nagrand significantly, it can upgrade many of your quest rewards beyond ilvl 615.
ilvl 615 is key because it lets you into LFR for many ilvl 640 items. Also into Heroics, which are fun and progress you down the legendary questline. The other requirement for running Heroics is to pass the silver Proving Grounds. Get at or above 615 for this because while it scales down your gear to 615, it doesn't scale your gear up to 615. So, it can make it challenging.
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Post by Bob on Jan 21, 2015 12:07:33 GMT -5
Sometimes, I feel bad for Scout Valdez, who goes through the trouble of sketching out recent threats that I totally ignore every day.
Fun Fact: Proving Grounds (or the lack thereof) does not prevent you from getting raid loot from Follower missions. I received Casque of the Iron Bomber, which drops in Normal Highmaul, from a level 645 follower quest. My item level is 634, and I've run all of one dungeon - normal Skyreach - for the sake of the epic ring questline. Hell, since hitting 100, I've only left my Garrison a handful of times, mostly to go trapping (which, incidentally, is very much easier now that I've got a little gear under me).
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Post by mike on Jan 21, 2015 12:33:07 GMT -5
Out of curiousity, what ilvl was the cask? It's supposed to vary depending on what level of raiding you have done. I know that it drops 655 for Aejacs (LFR level raiding) and higher for Ordin, but I'm curious to see what it will drop for no raiding at all. My guess is still 655 since the ilvl 630 missions award 645.
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Post by Bob on Jan 21, 2015 12:44:27 GMT -5
Out of curiousity, what ilvl was the cask? It's supposed to vary depending on what level of raiding you have done. I know that it drops 655 for Aejacs (LFR level raiding) and higher for Ordin, but I'm curious to see what it will drop for no raiding at all. My guess is still 655 since the ilvl 630 missions award 645. The cask (helmet) is 655. It looks to me like the drops/quests are based on follower iLvl, more so than "what kind of raiding have you done."
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Post by Rodni on Jan 21, 2015 13:37:14 GMT -5
My understanding of the follower raid missions...
- For normal level raid rewards from missions, you just need to get your followers iLevel up high enough - For heroic or mythic level mission rewards, you need the iLevel of your followers up high enough, but you also need X number of boss kills in the previous level of raid difficulty (ie. 15 boss kills in normal to be eligible for heroic raid gear mission rewards and 15 heroic boss kills for mythic) - Proving grounds silver ranking is needed to queue for that role in heroics, but proving grounds is not necessary to queue for LFR
I'm not positive on the specific numbers of iLevel and boss kills, but that is the mechanics behind they system as I know it.
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Post by John on Jan 26, 2015 15:01:12 GMT -5
DPS forever! Rachel and I realize we are not leveling anywhere close to a reasonable speed, which means it's unlikely we will be playing regularly enough to be dependable tanks or healers. In order to actually get a chance to join you in raids we're likely switching to Vigo and Fortula and just doing as many bonus objectives as possible to get to 100. We still enjoy playing, but life.... you know....
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Post by Bob on Jan 26, 2015 16:32:12 GMT -5
DPS forever! Rachel and I realize we are not leveling anywhere close to a reasonable speed, which means it's unlikely we will be playing regularly enough to be dependable tanks or healers. In order to actually get a chance to join you in raids we're likely switching to Vigo and Fortula and just doing as many bonus objectives as possible to get to 100. We still enjoy playing, but life.... you know.... Indeed.
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