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Post by John on Oct 21, 2015 11:57:00 GMT -5
That sucks that you've been cut off from the outside world at work. What ISN'T blocked?
While the poster gave me pause, the trailer swung my needle back to hyped. I swore I was done with Star Wars, but I'm all the way back into crazy anticipation. I expect the movie will disappoint me, but for now I'm pretty enthusiastic. I'm pretty happy that there's still so much still unstated, as opposed to say the Terminator: Genisys trailer which laid out so much of the plot, character development, twists and turns. Even the dialogue in the Star Wars trailers is jumbled, out of order and divorced from the speaker (except for Han's lines apparently) that they give no sense of what the movie is even about. So far, the trailers have been completely about emotion. Hoping the movie can deliver on an intellectual level too, but I'm pretty sure there is going to be some dumb stuff in it I can't get past.
I'll be seeing at least twice I think (once to preview, once with the boy after I'm sure it's kid friendly).
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Post by Bob on Oct 21, 2015 20:35:41 GMT -5
That sucks that you've been cut off from the outside world at work. What ISN'T blocked? While the poster gave me pause, the trailer swung my needle back to hyped. I swore I was done with Star Wars, but I'm all the way back into crazy anticipation. I expect the movie will disappoint me, but for now I'm pretty enthusiastic. I'm pretty happy that there's still so much still unstated, as opposed to say the Terminator: Genisys trailer which laid out so much of the plot, character development, twists and turns. Even the dialogue in the Star Wars trailers is jumbled, out of order and divorced from the speaker (except for Han's lines apparently) that they give no sense of what the movie is even about. So far, the trailers have been completely about emotion. Hoping the movie can deliver on an intellectual level too, but I'm pretty sure there is going to be some dumb stuff in it I can't get past. I'll be seeing at least twice I think (once to preview, once with the boy after I'm sure it's kid friendly). I think the Terminator: Genisys trailer was probably the worst example of a trailer you could've picked, at least out of recent movies that didn't involve Adam Sandler. Whoever let that one out of the studio should've been shitcanned right quick. But yeah, I'm "optimistic" now from previously "cautiously optimistic" on the strength of the trailer. Which may sound like damning with faint praise, but I was like "zero fucks given" when I first started hearing about the movie, so it's come a long way, baby. The way I see it, even if it sucks, it looks like it's a fun movie with some heart and soul. I'll see it at least once in the theater. While I'm sure it's kid friendly, I'm pretty sure Claire's too young for it yet :-).
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Post by John on Dec 11, 2015 14:44:36 GMT -5
Can't wait to get my boy some star wars toys for Christmas! Wait. waht Dennis?
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Post by Bob on Dec 11, 2015 23:06:43 GMT -5
GLORIOUS STAR LORD
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Post by Bob on Dec 15, 2015 21:14:25 GMT -5
I mean not to put too much stock in an easily-read-to-be-cryptic Tweet, but
Patton Oswalt seems to have liked the movie.
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Post by Marky Mark on Dec 16, 2015 8:37:14 GMT -5
110 reviews on Rottentomatoes...97% fresh. Feeling more relieved now .
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Post by John on Dec 16, 2015 13:40:32 GMT -5
I've been listening to this, like, 5 times a day this week.
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Post by Bob on Dec 18, 2015 22:33:09 GMT -5
I've been listening to this, like, 5 times a day this week. So, uh, have you seen it? I haven't and, barring some sort of rift in the space-time continuum, won't before the Christmas party on Saturday.
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Post by Marky Mark on Dec 19, 2015 0:47:47 GMT -5
I have. Remain unspoiled, if possible!
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Post by John on Dec 21, 2015 13:52:30 GMT -5
I saw it. Don't want to spoil anything. Instead, here's a ranking of the flicks I saw that were released in 2015:
1) Mad Max 2) The Martian 3) Star Wars: The Force Awakens 4) Ant Man 5) Inside Out 6) Avengers: Age of Ultron 7) Ex Machina 8) Train Wreck 9) A Very Murray Christmas - - - - The Recommend/Don't Recommend Line - - - - - 10) Jurassic World 11) The Peanuts Movie
I had some beefs with it, but overall it comes out ahead.
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Post by Bob on Dec 23, 2015 20:01:40 GMT -5
I saw it. Don't want to spoil anything. Instead, here's a ranking of the flicks I saw that were released in 2015: 1) Mad Max 2) The Martian 3) Star Wars: The Force Awakens I'd agree with this, on the understanding that I didn't see The Martian (but read the hell out of the book). Do we need a new thread for spoilery discussions? I have a couple of nits to pick, but nothing at all serious or earth shattering. Who's first?
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Post by John on Jan 5, 2016 15:58:52 GMT -5
OMG
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Post by Bob on Jan 9, 2016 16:58:00 GMT -5
Yeah, it pretty much shattered the backboard.
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Post by John on Jan 11, 2016 11:50:34 GMT -5
I was thinking about Rey's vision. From a mythological viewpoint, she descends into the underworld and retrieves knowledge/power (and then has the Campbellian "Refusal of the Call") before returning to the overworld.
I was thinking about Luke's similar journey, descending into the cave on Dagobah. Yoda says he fails at the cave (I guess he didn't pick up on that subtle clue of seeing a Skywalker's face beneath Vader's mask), but I think Rey's 'underworld descent' mimics Luke's. They both descend into a hidden underworld, experience visions and return to the overworld shaken. Luke fails because he brought his weapons, but if this is Rey's test she carries it out the way you are supposed to, right? She is also confronted by visions of a "black knight" but doesn't draw a weapon and attack him. She returns to the surface and rejects the weapon and her "destiny". She only picks it up again when forced to defend Finn and herself at the end of the movie.
I see a lot of shit about Rey being too powerful in the force, and learning things that took Luke two or three movies to master, but we don't really know how the Force works. Maybe the 'Test of the Underworld' and the 'Rejection of Weapons' are the keys to gaining a greater mastery of the Force. There must be children born with innate talents in the Force, but those that seek to become students of a Jedi Master must "unlearn what they have learned". The very act of trying to master the Force may throw up internal mental roadblocks that prevent that. Rey, with no desire to learn the Force may have an easier time of "stretching out with her feelings". Rather than having to learn the Jedi equivalent of "Chopsticks" and "Mary Had a Little Lamb" she can just cut loose with an emotional avant garde Jazz riff that lets her persuade JB-007 to unlock her cuffs, snatch a lightsaber from Kylo Ren's mental grip and fend off his attacks with a lightsaber.
Or maybe it's just a movie and JJ just wrote some cool stuff to keep folks entertained.
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Post by Bob on Jan 11, 2016 21:59:03 GMT -5
I see a lot of shit about Rey being too powerful in the force, and learning things that took Luke two or three movies to master Forget it, John. It's the internet. But seriously, I'm wholly on board with a character (Rey, Luke, whomever) being "a natural" with the Force. We don't know how it works, and Luke hit a million-to-one shot with maybe 20-minutes of farting around with the training ball thing on the Falcon. But then, I was also trying to build a 2nd Edition D&D sorcerer back before Vlad. We don't know any of Rey's backstory apart from the blips we saw in the movie. She was abandoned on Tattooine Jakkar when she was very young, presumably just before or after the sack of Luke's Jedi temple. She could've been that generation's Neo, or Yoda reincarnate, or had all the midichlorians, or whatever magic handwave JJ and Kazdan want to do. Also also, Rey was shown to be a competent fighter early in the movie, Kylo was seriously injured before the fight with Finn (who also did fairly well, all things considered). My only beef with that entire scene is that it felt like Rey's "oh hey I should use the force, let me center myself" thing went on for a couple beats too long - they're on the edge, swords locked, and Rey's gonna center herself and start swinWait not yet still centering. But I've also only seen the movie once, so maybe I'll think differently on the next viewing. The "Rey pushes back against Kylo's mind-meld" thing also went on a bit long, but it was well acted and not much dialogue. And it was supposed to be uncomfortable. I don't think Luke's failure at the cave was that he brought his weapons - if that were the case, he'd failed at the cave before he went into the cave. His failure was that he'd let his fear get the best of him. At least, that's always been my read on that scene.
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